Longdistance in Lockdown

Dear Zahra

I am speaking to someone online who lives in Australia. I live in Canada. However his border won’t open for another few months. I can’t even consider him until I meet him, so how long am I supposed to drag on this “getting to know you” phase? And how do we pace ourselves so it doesn’t get awkward waiting around for the borders to open?

Salaams,

Selena

xo

 

*Name changed for anonymity

Dear Selena 

Firstly, it’s great to see that you’re giving your search for a partner a chance in the midst of what has been a crazy 12 months. 

I think it’s important to first consider the fact that long-distance relationships in general often take much more work than your usual relationship. With distance comes time. The time apart could create feelings of being disconnected and out of sync. So when you factor in that you’re attempting to get to know someone without any (as of yet) real life interaction –  the added bonus of a global pandemic sure doesn’t help. 

The somewhat reassuring aspect here is that you’re not alone. Due to the national lockdown, many couples are now considered long distance.  London – Birmingham – Manchester – Liverpool. Cities in the UK, that between them would sometimes take only an hour or two to reach and now any plans for meeting have been put on hold.

With that being said, I would treat this as you would if you were both in the same place experiencing lockdown together. Any long distance relationship should be met with open and honest communication. In this case, when you are both searching for a spouse – it means being transparent about your goals, your ideal timelines in regards to meeting each other, meeting families, engagement (if you wish to have a period of engagement) and marriage. 

With that, the first and most important thing, would be to set an ideal time that you could both meet. Provided borders and lockdown is eased. With that date in mind (knowing this date may need to be amended due to the pandemic), you can both work towards that date with some mutual commitments when it comes to communication. Commit to the number of times per week you’ll FaceTime/call. You don’t need to spend every call asking questions – treat them as you would any other ‘halal date’. Watch a movie at the same time on zoom, cook something together or watch an Islamic lecture together.  

If you treat each call as an interview – you’re both potentially going to run out of steam. I truly believe some conversations are better left for a real date.

Ultimately, during this period, you may well find your conversations already point to an answer for you, without either of you having to meet. If major red flags crop up before your date – you may decide to go your separate ways – and that’s ok. That’s exactly what the ‘getting to know you’ stage is for and it doesn’t always require a face to face date, for you to come to this decision.

Zahra 

xo

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Do I move off the app whenever he asks?

Dear Zahra

Assslaamu alaikum, Zahra

Loving these blog posts. By chance (cookies, anyone?), came across your IG page and was like yasss, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for but I didn’t know it. 

So, my question. I have come to accept guys will talk to multiple girls at the same time. Even the practicing fellas in my life have said they will do the same when their time comes because it is more efficient time wise. So I then tried the whole multiple people thing (admittedly, not for long) and my heart couldn’t keep up.

I don’t have the emotional capacity to be sincere with multiple people at the same time. Don’t know how guys do it but I have accepted my nature and decided to continue one guy at a time even if that does slow me down.

Right, my question. So, after stuff went well on Muzmatch, one guy said he wanted to get to know me better so asked if we could exchange Snap details. I was reluctant. Snap seems so informal to me. I only keep close friends on there but I figured he thought exchanging numbers was too much so I went ahead (with my Mum’s permission ;P). Any who, with a drop of a hat, he was so informal. He was very sincere, you could say; fast to message, calling me sweetie but I felt like it was too informal too soon. Things ended a few days in and I realised I loved his character but I would have liked someone that revealed all that slower, I guess. Am I too formal for Halal Dating? Is me requesting we move to WhatsApp a big deal, instead of Snap?  

Should I be looking at this as if I’m actually in a relationship with a guy and making more conscious effort to let my fun, less guarded side show? I’m caught between knowing how formal/revealing of my character to be.

 I’m hoping more time on the app will teach me via experience but sometimes I shudder at the thought of pushing away a good prospect because I haven’t understood how to navigate this field yet. I’m trying to not let this hold me back and telling myself, if someone is good for me, then it’ll just work iA. I’m just exhausted so taking a break from the scene but also so excited I found your page and want to ask straight away.

Bless you, sis x

Faiza

xo

 

*Name changed for anonymity

Dear Faiza 

So let me start by saying – I’m so happy to hear you’re enjoying the blog – thank you for reading!

As your questions demonstrate – halal dating, whether it be via apps or muslim marriage sites (or whatever method you use to find a partner) isn’t at all easy. 

Yes, people do tend to ‘multi-date’ and if you’ve read my blog posts, you’ll know I’m not a fan. In fact I think it often leads people to believe there’s always a ‘better’ option out there.  True connections, are built over time. So if you’re constantly chasing the next best thing (which is exactly what happens when you Multidate) – you end up in this never ending cycle of searching, giving only 10% of your energy and heart to someone and swiping again & again. So as a result, people may lose someone that could have otherwise been ‘the one’.  

As for moving conversations off an app. 

In my experience, be wary of moving off the app too soon. There are apps that allow messages to disappear within seconds after they are read.  So for halal dating purposes – I really wouldn’t recommend moving your conversation to one of these . In fact, I always recommend to use the apps themselves to get to know each other. Some apps now have voice notes/calling or even video calling embedded into the apps themselves – with so many features –  there is very little reason to move off them. So if any man asks you for your number early on, I’d recommend you ask that you continue your conversation for the time being on the app, as its a little safer while you get to know someone that is essentially a stranger. If he has a problem with it – that says a lot about his character and intentions – *red flag alert*.

As for the nature of your conversations – go at your own pace. Whilst every conversation isn’t a business meeting (it can feel like an interview with all the questions sometimes, right?!) – there is no harm in speaking to each other in a friendly but halal manner. Just ensure that you  both respect each others boundaries and if you prefer to have a wali involved from the very beginning – don’t be afraid to ask for this. 

 

All my duas, 

Zahra 

xo

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I Feel Like It Isn’t Going Anywhere

Dear Zahra

I’ve  been talking to this guy who I met online and he seems like a really lovely guy, but the only issue is that I don’t feel like it’s going anywhere nor do I know his intentions. We’ve been texting for 2 months, we’ve only spoken on the phone once at the beginning and he’s never asked to meet me (he once joked about meeting at the start). When I said that I feel like he wasn’t interested in me, he questioned me and said it’s because he’s been really busy with a new job and gym taking up most much of his time. He said he’ll make more effort but never actually gave me reassurance and then carried on like nothing happened. I don’t want to end things with him but I do feel like he’s wasting my time and also making me feel needy when I try and progress things further. What should I say to him and do in this situation?

*Rima

xo

*Name changed for anonymity

Dear Rima 

I know it might feel like there is so much worth pursuing here but you’ve highlighted a lot of red flags. The biggest for me, being that you’re already at the point where you’re beginning to feel needy and that’s never a good thing. 

It’s been 2 months and he’s not seriously suggested meeting up – I’d be question whether he actually has any intention of progressing this situation.

Right now, it sounds like this man has found a great way to pass his time and while doing so, is keeping you at an arms length, so things don’t get too serious. Now I’m assuming this isn’t a long distance situation. Regardless, know that If a man is serious about you, then he’ll carve out some time to see you (even if Its a few weeks etc down the line due to a busy schedule).

So at this point, If this were me, I’d be quite clear about what I’m looking for and ask how he feels/whether he is looking for the same thing. If he doesn’t give you a clear answer and still leaves you hanging – I think you have your answer. 

All my duas,

Zahra

xo

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Do I Need to Disclose My Past?

Dear Zahra

I have a really big issue. In my first year of uni I went a bit wild and did some things that I’m very ashamed of (drinking, doing things with boys). I have since completely turned my lifestyle around and I have made my peace with everything I’ve done through being a more devout muslim. But my question here is, do I have to disclose this information to potential partners? If so when? I have not started dating/looking  yet but I think the ideal time is coming soon. 

*Jasmine

xo

Dear Jasmine

I’ll make it clear, first and foremost, that I’m not an Imam, Scholar or Islamic figure of any kind to give you islamic advise. That being said, from my own standpoint,  and understanding, your past is yours. I do believe that if you have repented, then your sins are between you and Allah (swt). And no one has the right to ask you to share your past sins, or to divulge such significant personal information. 

What you must remember, is that your journey to finding the one is rarely ever a smooth ride. You may well find that you speak to and get to know various ‘prospects’ and whilst I hope it does not happen for you, there is every possibility of broken engagements or just broken hearts down the road. So just from a general perspective, why share such information, with someone that is never guaranteed to be a permanent fixture in your life. And even if they do happen to become your husband, you have every right to some degree of privacy when it comes to your past. 

I’m so happy to hear that you’ve found your way back to your faith Alhamdullilah. So, as you may start to consider stepping back into your search for a partner, don’t lose sight of the person you are now. Our past, our failures or  mistakes, only serve to make us wiser and stronger and ultimately, if it has led you back to Islam, that should be what you focus on. Remember that. 


All my duas, 

Zahra 

xo

*Name changed for anonymity

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Radio Silence after our Families Meet

Dear Zahra

I am so confused with my situation and I’m so glad to have stumbled on your page. I met a guy through one of these rishta match pages and we have been speaking since around march. We met twice, once with our siblings with us and once alone but then due to lockdown, there was a massive delay in getting our families together to meet, however we kept in touch even though sometimes, we did go days without talking at all. Now that lockdown has eased, he brought his family over to meet mine. I thought the meeting went well however after they left, we didn’t hear from his mum at all, which I found strange, as even if it’s a ‘no’ they would normally call and make some excuse. 

What I found even stranger, was that the guy didn’t contact me either! Not even to say thanks for having us over etc. A few days passed and I messaged him & asked why he’s not said anything since, to which he replied, his family liked my family, but now they want to do istikhara and take it from there. But I’m confused as to why they didn’t say that to us without me having to ask? I then said I want complete honesty from them, and that his mum should have called my mum to say she wants time to do istikhara, instead of just leaving us hanging. He said I was right and that she should have called, and that she will but she wants to do istikhara first. It’s been just over a week and I’ve not heard from either him or his mum. I’m so lost and don’t know if I’m wasting my time, as they are being quite odd and quiet – or are people just weird like that? My mum thinks it’s a no and that I should start looking elsewhere again for another rishta. Any advice to clear my head would be great, thank you. 

*Farrah

xo

Dear Farrah

Silence during this entire period, from either you or him, would never be a great start. If anything, during this time, when you’re getting to know each other, meeting each others siblings, friends or families – healthy, regular communication is essential! It’s only normal that with every date and every step of progress that one of you, if not both of you, will come away with either more questions or just wondering how he/she feels. So if he’s not communicating, I’m not surprised you feel as confused as you do. 

Is his family legitimately asking for time to do istikhara? Well, technically they didn’t ask. Your families met and they said absolutely nothing for days until you reached out. Is that poor form? Yes. Is it rude? Yes. So put aside whether he likes you or whether his family does. Consider the behaviour so far. How do you feel about him and his family? 

You’ve already reached out to him and it’s again been days since you’ve heard anything. At this point, you may want to stop reaching out for more explanations. If you don’t hear anything from him or his family, you have your answer. 

I know how gutting this can feel but remember your worth, if he didn’t see it, it’s his loss!

All my duas,

Zahra

xo

*Name changed for anonymity

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What If He Isn’t Calling?

Dear Zahra

I am 26 years old and looking to get married but it’s just not happening. I’m speaking to someone currently with the intention of marriage. How do I know if someone is actually serious?

We haven’t met up yet, he keeps saying ‘soon’? He also accidentally called me once and I made a joke about the call, his response was that it’s too early for that? We’ve been speaking for over a month.

I really want it to work out because he seems like a really nice guy. What do I do? I don’t want to be strung along and then find he isn’t interested. When we first started talking, I told him I wanted to get married, told him my times scales and he said he was on the same page?

*Halima

xo

He doesnt call

Dear Halima

Let’s start with the positives in your situation! You did a great job with setting your intentions with him early on in your conversations. If you’re intentions for marriage are serious, it is in my opinion incredibly important that you have this conversation early on, before you find out 8 weeks down the line, that he was only looking for a temporary fling!

Now despite you having done this, there is no guarantee that he’ll be upfront and honest about his intentions. I would absolutely have suggested you have that conversation face to face or at the very least over FaceTime/video call but I can see your dilemma. 

 

You say he’s a great guy and you really want it to work out but in the same message, you’ve highlighted some potential redflags here. So before I address these, a small reminder for you! You’re 26, you have you’re whole life ahead of you and many successes and accomplishments in your future inshAllah. Know your worth. That means that you hold a potential future husband to at least the same standards you live by. 

So when it’s been weeks and he hasn’t even picked up the phone to call you – if that were me – I would absolutely want to know why and I would be questioning his intentions here. It’s very easy to hide behind a profile that isn’t reflective of who you really are. So whilst there may be genuine reasons for why he’s unable to meet In person, I’d want to know what his reasons are for not picking up the phone? 

Again, it’s important that you decide where you draw the line. For how long are you really ok with being WhatsApp pals? 

At this point, especially since you’re (rightly so) beginning to question his intentions , I think it’s time to have a conversation with him about the lack of progress. If he’s serious about you and intent on marriage, progressing to phone calls/video calls (at the very least), should be a no brainer.

All my duas, 

Zahra

xo

*Name changed for anonymity

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Istikhara Says No

Dear Zahra

I met a great guy on muzmatch and spoke to him from the start of the UK lockdown (roughly 4 months). 

We told our families a month ago and met 3 weeks ago – he likes me but said for us to move ahead, his family had to do checks on me and my family. I accepted because this was inevitable, his family had their status (his dad is an imam) to protect. We had great conversation after we met and spoke positively about the future, that is, until a week after, when he said we shouldn’t speak unnecessarily. He said it’s in the hands of family now. I received a call yesterday telling me his dads istikhara kept coming back negative after having done it a few times, and it’s best we part ways for now.

It didn’t make sense to me because his family sent people to my house 4 days before and called up my guardian 3 days before that, for a friendly chat. He said he didn’t do Istikhara because his heart was inclined one way, so he left it to his parents.

 I just need someone who’s not bias to shed some light on the situation.

Jzk. 

Aisha*

xo

Dear Aisha

I know this must feel like an incredibly confusing time right now.

What a stressful few weeks that must have been. It’s not unheard of for some families to do ‘background checks’ and search for references. There isn’t necessarily any harm in doing so and from what you’ve said, it seems this guy was quite intent, on his family making the decisions. So bearing this in mind, It appears that, despite how he may have felt about you, if his family didn’t agree (whether it be because of the references or because of an Istikhara), their decision would always be the ultimate decider. 

So whilst you may have had great, promising conversations about the future together, all of that rests on what his family decide – if it didn’t, he wouldn’t tell you that his father was the one doing the istikhara. This was very much about a marriage of families.

The important thing here, is what you take away from the experience. 

Now, despite the fact some families do search for references etc, I must say, sending people over to your house, on multiple occasions, to check on your family, feels to me, like a step too far.  Remember that you set the limits. Decide what you are and are not comfortable with. That means, not agreeing to anything you’re not ok with, even if they demand it’s the only way, for you to progress towards marriage. Don’t agree to anything that doesn’t sit well with you. No man (it doesn’t matter if he’s an Imams son either!) is worth that.

Whilst I can’t tell you why this istikharah may have come back negative, (and I’m assuming here, that they actually did pray Istikhara), I can tell you, that regardless of the outcome, trust that Allah (swt) will guide you to that which is best for you. 

I know it’s easier said than done, you’re human and we have incredible minds that work hard to help us make sense of a situation. Ultimately, take this as an experience, and use the lessons moving forward, to help you on your search. 

All my duas

Zahra

xo

 

 

*Name changed for anonymity

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